Friday Q&A, pt. 1: Mets stuff

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You know, Cousin Ray? That’s a good question, and one I hadn’t really considered. And I suppose we’re not counting Todd Hundley and Howard Johnson as outfielders here, for obvious reasons.

I suspect it’s a combination of some bad luck and the rarity of power-hitting outfielders as good as Darryl Strawberry. In the time since the Mets started playing in 1962, the Braves have developed two outfielders who hit more home runs for them than Strawberry did for the Mets: Andruw Jones and Dale Murphy (though some dude named Hank Aaron was already playing for the Braves in 1962 and hit 480 homers for them from that date forward). Pat Burrell finished his Phillies career with 251 home runs, one short of Straw’s total with the Mets and in a better offensive era.

No outfielder — and no one at all — in the history of the Nationals/Expos or the Marlins franchises has hit as many home runs for the club as Strawberry did for the Mets. Andre Dawson and Vlad Guerrero both finished about one strong season shy of the Straw Man, though, and certainly Giancarlo Stanton and Bryce Harper appear to be on promising trajectories.

That’s just in the division, though, and the Mets don’t ever seem to benefit from the services of in-house power-hitting outfielders of the Geoff Jenkins and Bobby Higginson ilk, who come up through their system, mash some dingers for a while then fade into the ether. And in the rare instance they do have one of those guys, it seems they tend to trade him away before he does the bulk of his Major League damage.

Near as I can tell, the best power-hitting outfielders the Mets have developed besides Strawberry have been Jeromy Burnitz, Kevin Mitchell and the criminally underrated Ken Singleton. Those three totaled 38 home runs in their first stints with the Mets (Burnitz added 37 more in his second go-round) and hit 720 of them for other teams.

So I guess I’d blame it on some bad luck, some bad choices, a lot of reliance on free-agency once the free-agency era began, and Dallas Green.

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This question came up in many different forms, so I’m using our man Catsmeat’s to stand in for all of them because I know for a fact he’s a dedicated Taco Bell lover. And yes, of course it does.

The Mets’ trade of Pagan for Ramon Ramirez and Andres Torres looks pretty awful in retrospect. And for all you’ll read about why it had to be done, fact is — as Patrick Flood pointed out on the podcast yesterday — Pagan suffered a career-low batting average on balls in play in 2011. So did Andres Torres, though, and Torres repeated his low mark in 2012. Plus I don’t think anyone could have expected Ramon Ramirez to struggle like he did.

Anyway, since Pagan would pretty demonstrably not have made the difference for the Mets in 2012 and would now be headed for free agency anyway, I’ll call the deal a net positive for humanity because it ultimately earned us all free tacos. I preferred the promotion when it promised regular Crunchy Tacos, the Doritos Locos Taco’s superior ancestor, but I’ll take any free taco I can get. See you guys at Taco Bell next week.

Damned if I know. Mookie apparently admits he wouldn’t have, and I defer to Mookie always. Maybe if Buckner gets the ball and charges toward the bag, Mookie hesitates at the sight of the lumbering first baseman and twists his ankle. Maybe the Mets win in some equally crazy way in the 12th or the 17th and we have some other great story to tell. Maybe Mookie beats Buckner to the bag and Ray Knight goes too far rounding third and gets thrown out in a rundown. Maybe the top of the 11th was when Suspect Zero planned the FlashForward. What happened, happened, and what happened was awesome. I only wish I was old enough to be conscious of how awesome it was.

Let’s (not really) make a deal!

‘Tis the season for reckless speculation. Why fight it?

I’ve been plumbing the pages of MLBDepthCharts.com looking for good potential trade partners for the Mets this offseason. The Mets, we know, need position players — especially outfielders. They have some depth in the starting rotation which, while inherently tenuous, likely represents their greatest strength from which to deal.

Let’s start with the obvious: Johan Santana’s contract and recent injury history probably makes him more or less immovable. Perhaps the Mets could find some team willing to take on his salary for the sake of freeing up some payroll, but it’s doubtful they could do so in a way that would immediately make them appreciably better. Dillon Gee, coming off a season-ending injury, doesn’t seem a good candidate for trade either. And I don’t think any human Mets fan could stomach the idea of trading Matt Harvey after what Harvey did in the second half of 2012. Plus Harvey, as a pitcher who could potentially front the Mets’ rotation a couple years down the road, represents the type of player the Mets in their current situation should be bringing in, not sending away.

The same goes to some extent for Jon Niese, a young lefty who pitched well in 2012 and who is signed to a team-friendly deal through 2016 with options for 2017 and 2018. Niese’s name has come up — and will continue to come up — in trade speculation already this fall due to those qualities; he might be the Met who could return the most from a partner. But with the Mets appearing unlikely to contend in 2013 and Niese likely to contribute to whatever team he’s on in 2014 and 2015, he, too, could make an important part of the Mets’ next competitive team.

R.A. Dickey’s situation is less clear. He’ll turn 38 next week, and though many knuckleballers enjoy success well into their 40s, Dickey is not like many knuckleballers. Plus, he’s only under the Mets’ control for one more season, through a very inexpensive $5 million option for his services 2013. And Dickey, you know, is coming off a career year that might net him the NL Cy Young Award. The Mets could try to lock him up for the next several years with an extension, but doing so will be expensive and will come with a significant amount of risk.

Now, look: No one is saying the Mets should trade Dickey for the sake of trading Dickey, least of all me. But if the Mets want to trade from a position of strength to address a weakness and build for the future, he might be the most logical guy to deal. Though due to his age and contract status he’s not likely to bring back as much as Niese, he’s for the same reasons not as likely to continue contributing to the Mets as efficiently — on a price-per-win basis, at least — as Niese moving forward. And Dickey, on the strength of his awesome 2012 season, should look pretty tempting to a team that feels it is one excellent pitcher away from a postseason run in 2013.

Which brings me to the Los Angeles Angels, who finished four games out of the AL Wild Card in 2012. Jered Weaver and C.J. Wilson will return to Of Anaheim in 2013, but Zack Greinke is set for free agency and the Angels are expected to buy out 2013 options on Dan Haren and Ervin Santana.

To boot, the Angels have a couple of players that might be expendable that the Mets could definitely use. Owner Arte Moreno has said he’d like to bring back Torii Hunter, which would give the club a very crowded outfield mix. In 2012, due to the presence of Hunter, Mark Trumbo and the unspeakably awesome Mike Trout, young Peter Bourjos was relegated to a part-time role for the first time in his professional career. Bourjos struggled, posting a .606 OPS in 195 plate appearances. But Bourjos is by all accounts one of the best defensive center fielders in the game. He’ll be 26 by Opening Day, he’s locked up through arbitration for the next four seasons, and he enjoyed a strong season as the Angels’ everyday center fielder in 2011. Plus he hits right-handed, as almost none of the Mets’ in-house outfielders not named Jason Bay do.

Shortly after the season, the Angels signed catcher Chris Iannetta to a three-year contract extension. Though the deal is hardly expensive enough to prohibit the Angels from using other catchers, and though they lost backup Bobby Wilson on waivers to the Blue Jays shortly thereafter, if Iannetta’s deal signifies the club’s commitment to the backstop, it could free up former prospect Hank Conger for a trade. Conger, who’ll turn 25 in January, has not hit at all in 252 Major League plate appearances across the last three seasons and suffered through some injury woes in 2012. But beyond his prospect pedigree, Conger bats from both sides of the plate and has always hit well in the Minors.

Tell me if this sounds ridiculous — and keep in mind that it’s early, both in the day and in the offseason: How about R.A. Dickey and Josh Thole for Peter Bourjos and Hank Conger? Would the Mets do that? Would the Angels?

The way I see it, the Mets get weaker in the starting rotation, but gain a righty-hitting starting center fielder and a switch-hitting potential starting catcher that are both under team control through the 2016 season. The Angels add an excellent pitcher to their depleted rotation at a discounted price, plus a lefty-hitting backup to Iannetta that can catch the knuckleball.

And not for nothing, since both Bourjos and Conger are set to make the league minimum and Thole will be eligible for arbitration, the trade would free up enough cash for the Mets to sign a righty-hitting catcher to share time with and act as a hedge for Conger (a Kelly Shoppach type, if not Shoppach himself) and Mike Pelfrey to eat up some of Dickey’s innings (albeit not as well) once he returns from injury in May.

What do you think?

And now, more importantly, try to take off your Mets hat and think like an Angels fan for a moment. Keep in mind that both Bourjos and Conger should have value to a lot of teams on the trade market, not just the Mets.

What’s to be done with Wilmer Flores?

In short, I don’t know. In long:

Wilmer Flores will someday hit like a Major Leaguer. Of that we can be somewhat confident, or at least as confident as we ever can be when dealing with 21-year-old prospects. Flores’ .855 OPS after his promotion to Double-A Binghamton ranked him 11th in the Eastern League in the stat, and — perhaps more importantly — he was the youngest player in the top 25. (The only younger player in the league’s Top 50, Manny Machado, wound up playing an important role in the Orioles’ unlikely postseason run.)

Though I try not to put too much stock in the subjective determinations of human scouts (important though they are), pretty much every informed observer you will ever talk to or hear from loves Flores’ swing. And if you see him connect with a pitch, it’s easy to see why: In one swift, seemingly effortless gust, his weight shifts forward, his hands rocket through the zone and the ball explodes off his bat. It’s especially impressive when juxtaposed with how awkward the gawky 21-year-old can look elsewhere on the field.

Therein lies the issue: Until this season, Flores exclusively played shortstop even though no one ever really seemed to think he’d stick at the position. In 2012, he played 87 games at third base, 27 games at second and seven at first. At Baseball America, J.J. Cooper suggested his limited range at third base could be an issue moving forward, which certainly does not bode well for his range at second base. And given Flores’ lack of footspeed, no one seems to think he’ll ever be able to handle the outfield (though, for what it’s worth, someone somewhere seemed to think Lucas Duda could).

The Mets currently have the best position player in franchise history at third base, and by most accounts they’re trying to lock David Wright up to a long-term extension. At first base, they have “Smirnoff” Ike Davis, a steady defender and one of their few big home-run threats, a young and at least capable Major League regular under team control through arbitration for the next four seasons.

So what’s do be done with Wilmer Flores? The Mets have a few options:

Trade Wright or Davis to make room: Whoa, whoa, whoa, cowboy. Wright and Davis are the Mets’ two best hitters. And though Flores appears plenty impressive for a guy his age, it’s far from a lock that he’ll ever match their offensive output. No player anywhere in the Mets’ system is likely to outproduce Wright anytime soon, and no player set for free agency anywhere on the horizon appears to match the Mets’ needs as well as Wright does. So if they have the money to spend on Wright that they claim to have, it’s likely best spent extending him. It depends on the deal, of course, for both contract extensions and potential trades. But the idea of trading a player on a Hall of Fame trajectory in the late part of his prime to make room for one with 66 games’ worth of experience above A-ball is silly. I hope you don’t need me to remind you of that, but I understand that we let our minds run buck wild sometimes when we think about prospects.

Though Davis’ contract status and home-run power make him a valuable commodity to the Mets, they would also make him a valuable commodity to any acquiring team. And the Mets have, in Duda, a lesser but — despite his struggles this season — likely adequate replacement. Actually — and I didn’t set out to make this argument — if the Mets could net a young, cost-controlled everyday outfielder in return for Davis, they might be best served with Duda at first and Flores waiting in the wings than with Davis at first and Duda rendered significantly less valuable by his inadequacy in the outfield.

If you look at the largest samples available, Davis has been a better hitter than Duda but not a way better hitter, plus he’s a year younger and a better fielder at first base. But the Mets might be able to make up for more than those differences by moving Davis for an upgrade elsewhere. To boot, it clears up the first-base logjam, allowing the club to further assess Duda’s bat without suffering his outfield defense while Flores irons out the kinks in Triple-A. Again, it always depends on the deal. And since this site appreciates Davis’ moonshots, it’s not an idea I’m ready to endorse. But I’d put it down for not the worst idea ever.

Trade Flores for another prospect or in a package for an everyday outfielder: I’ll be honest, I just don’t know nearly enough about what will be available and what Flores could bring back in a trade to say whether this works or not. (Depends on the deal, depends on the deal, etc.) I will say that the Mets, as currently constructed, should not often be in the business of trading away talented young position players even if it’s not clear they have a position.

Just keep doing what they’re doing: For as long as we’ve been hearing about Flores and for all the early reports of his winter ball dominance, he’s still likely not ready to contribute to the Major League club yet. His Double-A line translates to a .653 OPS in the Majors. He’s improving, and hopefully he’s improving rapidly. But plenty can happen before Flores reaches the Majors, so the Mets seem best served by staying the course with Flores, using him all over the infield and letting him force his way through their system. Maybe he quiets his doubters and proves capable at second base. If he destroys Pacific Coast League pitching in 2013, the Mets have a good problem on their hands. In baseball, with all its streaks and slumps and injuries, those have a way of working themselves out.

The past 1,000 words have meant nothing. Carry on.

Marlins keep doing Marlin stuff

As of a week ago, Ozzie Guillen was enjoying time in Europe with several of the Marlins in his charge. Today, there are no more Marlins in his charge. He has been sacked, despite the three years and $7.5 million remaining on his contract and despite the fact that the Marlins actually traded two players to get him.

If the 2012 Miami Marlins season was The Old Man and the Sea, we’re at the part where the great fish has been reduced to a skeleton and a weepy Giancarlo Stanton is bringing the newspaper to Jose Reyes. Or something.

I started to put together a timeline of things that the Marlins did in the past 12 months — the stadium opening the Clevelander, Guillen praising Fidel Castro, the team acquiring Carlos Lee, etc., etc. — but the task became overwhelming and I grew certain you’d see it elsewhere. It’d be a colorful sequence, for sure, mesmerizing in its ugliness, with so many seemingly incongruous elements operating in smooth communion to create something at once spectacular and alarming.

Which is to say, it’d look something like this:

Taco Bell Tuesday

Featuring baseball!

Justin Verlander confirms his Taco Bell order: Buried in an otherwise long and very interesting feature about Justin Verlander’s career and love life comes confirmation of his standard pre-start meal. The best pitcher in baseball prepares for his outings with three Crunchy Tacos Supreme, a Cheesy Gordita Crunch and a Mexican Pizza. Verlander has Tweeted the same:

Like your boy, me, he always requests no tomatoes on all his Taco Bell items. Unlike your boy, me, Justin Verlander probably never actually ends up with tomatoes on his Taco Bell items, because who would dare screw up Justin Verlander’s pre-start Taco Bell order?

For all Verlander’s successes on the mound, his Game 1 start in San Francisco may afford him the opportunity to do something he has never done before: Get a hit. In 35 career plate appearances in Interleague and postseason play, Verlander is 0-for-26 with no walks, 15 strikeouts and nine sacrifices. I went through Verlander’s game logs and determined that — unless he has at some point been inserted as a pinch-runner — he has actually been on base twice in his career: Once during the 2006 World Series and once earlier this season, both on fielder’s choices. I mention because…

“Steal a Base, Steal a Taco” promotion revived for 2012: Seriously, how sweet would it be if Justin Verlander, amazing pitcher and lover of Taco Bell, got his first career hit then immediately stole the first base of the 2012 World Series to secure free Doritos Locos Tacos for everyone in America? How can you possibly be reading this blog and not rooting for that to happen? It was cool enough when Tacoby Bellsbury did it back in ’07. Verlander doing it would elevate the promotion to a whole new realm of awesomeness. The person in Taco Bell’s marketing department that reads this blog and won’t acknowledge it will now have to scroll through the rest of this post with his or her fingers crossed. (Also, no hard feelings, bro or ma’am! Email me! We can make this happen. Crunchy red strips!)

Saturday Night Live produces fake Taco Bell commercial: This would probably be funnier if I were familiar with the original Brad Pitt ad in question before I saw the parody version. But the Dr. Zizmor one is pretty good regardless. Is Saturday Night Live funny again?

http://www.hulu.com/watch/415492