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Whoa
Good call from former roommate Will. Cole Hamels and Gary from Team America:
And you complain about Thole…
On a tip from Craig Calcaterra, I was checking out BuzzFeed’s 21 Weirdest Things about Old-School Baseball and this terrifying looking mustache man caught my eye:
That is, I assume, Charlie Hoover, the only C.E. Hoover to ever play professional baseball, according to baseball-reference.com. Hoping, in accordance with his name, Hoover would turn out to have been a good defensive player, I looked up his stats. He was not.
In his one full season in the American Association, Hoover played in 71 games, 66 of them behind the plate. In those 66 games as a catcher, he made 34 errors and allowed 58 passed balls.
Of course, those numbers aren’t atypical for the American Association, when games must have been so excruciating to watch it’s a wonder baseball even caught on. Hoover’s teammate Herman Long, a rookie shortstop nicknamed “Germany,” made 122 errors in 136 games, leading the league*.
And two catchers allowed more passed balls than Hoover did that season. Louisville backstop (to use the term loosely) and incredible mustache-haver Farmer Vaughn allowed 60 passed balls in 54 games behind the plate. His teammate, fellow mustache man Paul Cook, allowed 77 passed balls in 74 games at catcher to lead the league. Perhaps they were mesmerized by pitcher Guy Hecker’s razor-sharp mustache.
If you took in a Louisville Colonels game in 1889, it was better-than-even-money there was a passed ball. Also, they probably lost. The Colonels finished 27-111 that season. The upside is that 65 of their games were managed by an outfielder named Chicken Wolf. Chicken Wolf also had an amazing mustache.
As for the passed balls: Catchers didn’t wear shin guards until 1907 and, according to this, the chest protector was first invented in 1886, so depending on how quickly that caught on, it’s possible ol’ Charlie Hoover was out there behind the plate wearing little more than a mask, a mitt and what you see above. Except he wasn’t wearing that uniform in the American Association — he played for the Kansas City Cowboys. His lone season playing in Chicago came in the single-A Western Association in 1888.
*- For the sake of the disappointingly clean-cut shortstop Long’s honor, it’s worth noting that he also led the league in putouts by a pretty wide margin and finished third in the league in stolen bases, so it seems likely his high error total was at least in part due to his range. You get to the most balls in 1889, you boot the most balls in 1889. Like, 122 of them. Also, perhaps he was distracted on throws by first baseman Dan Stearns’ enchanting mustache.
Melting down
I understand the whole debate about chemistry in a clubhouse, and if it truly impacts the bottom line of a team’s performance. I understand that any major league player should perform well under any circumstance, regardless of emotional stimuli. However, I don’t think you can deny the positive impact that having a good clubhouse can provide. I’d like to think that this team’s situational hitting is directly correlated to the fact that they have a good group of guys that put team first. So with that said, how worried are you that this team, because of its seemingly emotional reliance, can keep its confidence up when the bullpen collapses in such fashion? How much effect do you think it actually has on guys like Justin Turner (who’s had limited opportunities but has put together a few key AB’s this season, including providing tonight’s go ahead runs in the 9th) and his psyche to see the bullpen collapse multiple times in one series? Basically, can bullpen collapses actually create a feeling of “this is all for naught?”
– Brian, via email.
OK, where to start.
Having a decent group of dudes in the clubhouse certainly can’t hurt a team, but why do we know that these current Mets are a better group of guys than previous incarnations? I suspect it has to do, mostly, with one thing: They’re winning more than they’re losing, and the opposite has been true the past few years. Every team at every level has more fun when it’s winning ballgames, and so naturally we look at them and say, “man, they really like each other; they’re pulling for each other; they’re winning games for each other.”
And we probably feel like we know Turner in particular more than most recent Mets because he’s generally available to fans, via Twitter and the press, and does seem like a good guy. But Marlon Anderson also seemed like a really good guy. Jeff Francoeur, by most accounts, is pretty much the best guy.
Which is to say that fundamentally I disagree: I do not think the team’s strong situational hitting to date is directly correlated with its positive clubhouse atmosphere. I think it’s more likely a combination of some good luck, a bench that’s probably better constructed than most initially thought, and some poor hitting in other situations earlier in games that amplifies the team’s success in certain clutch spots. Remember that earlier in this same season, many decried the team’s inability to hit with runners in scoring position. But it was the same group of good guys. What changed?
But all that said, I don’t think a couple of bullpen meltdowns — even those as miserable as yesterday’s debacle — could break a Major Leaguer’s spirit like that because I don’t think that type of capricious, defeatist attitude breeds Major League baseball players. Look at Turner, for example: The guy spent five seasons in the Minors before he finally got a full-time shot last year. In 2010, he torched the ball at Triple-A while the Mets started Luis Castillo, Alex Cora, Joaquin Arias and Luis Hernandez at second base. If he’s so subject to external factors as to allow a bad bullpen to break him, I suspect he’d have long since packed it up by now.
And the same goes, to some extent, for pretty much everyone on the team. No one makes it to the Majors without failing a lot and having the guys around him fail a lot. And if you can’t handle that, I imagine you don’t last very long.
As for that bullpen: It’s not good. It seems like the club’s relief arms are being victimized by a mix of bad control, bad luck and overuse. Last night’s culprits — Ramon Ramirez, Frank Francisco and Manny Acosta — have been the worst of them, and though all three have been hit hard at times and are doing themselves no favors with unintentional passes, they’ve all suffered batting averages on balls in play way higher than their career norms. There’s a pretty good deal of evidence suggesting that Ramirez and Francisco are capable Major League relievers, and it’s still only May 13. If they’re healthy, I’d bet on them turning it around.
The Mets lead the Majors in relief appearances, partly due to the ineffectiveness of their relievers. I propose this phenomenon be called the Jerry Manuel Quandary: Bad relief pitching causes overuse and overuse causes bad relief pitching. That doesn’t really explain the bad outings yesterday, though, and the two most-used pitchers in the Mets’ bullpen — Jon Rauch and Tim Byrdak — have been among the best.
Regardless, it doesn’t seem like it could hurt the team at this point to shake things up with a fresher arm from the Minors. Since there’s no easy fix on the Mets’ 40-man roster, there doesn’t appear to be an obvious move, but there are some viable candidates at Buffalo: Lefty Garrett Olson (who has been starting in Triple-A) and young righty Elvin Ramirez among them.
One reliever to keep an eye on — though it’s certainly not time for him yet — is Double-A righty Armando Rodriguez. Rodriguez was in big-league camp this spring on the Mets’ 40-man roster for Rule 5 Draft protection, but was passed through waivers at the start of the season. In his first 23 innings as a full-time reliever in the Minors, the massive Rodriguez has a 0.78 ERA with a 5:1 strikeout-to-walk ratio.
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Because of the endless entertainment (and significant traffic) I’ve found in archiving embarrassing photos of Cole Hamels, I felt it seemed appropriate to make a small gift in his name to his eponymous charity as a small token of appreciation for his efforts on and off the runway. The money I gave will pay for a desk in the school Hamels is establishing in Malawi. If you’ve enjoyed yourself some embarrassing photos of Cole Hamels in the past, I encourage you to do the same.
It will help impoverished children and make Hamels as happy as this autographed guitar did:
Fontenotes revisted
Extremely longtime readers from the ol’ Flushing Fussing days — i.e. my mom — probably don’t even remember that before the 2007, when the last good Mets team was starting to fall apart and I didn’t realize it yet, I advocated the Mets’ acquisition of then-Cubs Minor Leaguer Mike Fontenot to play second base because Fontenot had enjoyed success against Triple-A pitching and seemed to be stuck behind a logjam (including Ronny Cedeno) in the Cubs’ middle-infield mix.
After Jose Valentin went down with a knee injury in the 2007 season, I maintained a half-kidding regular section at the bottom of posts called “Fontenotes,” tracking Fontenot’s progress. I stopped, I believe, when the Mets traded for Luis Castillo.
Toby Hyde tipped me to the current Phillie-fan clamor for Fontenot on the podcast we recorded last night that should be up later today. The situation is very different than the Mets’ in 2007: For one, Fontenot’s actually in the Phillies’ system, so it’s a lot less ridiculous for fans to be calling for him.
For another, no Phillies fan is viewing Fontenot as a potential longtime regular — he’s not an unproven 26-year-old anymore, and they’ve got Chase Utley slated to return at some point. Fontenot will turn 32 in June, and he’s got five years of being a worthwhile but unspectacular part-time infielder under his belt (and a World Series ring on his finger). Phillies fans see him as a potential offensive upgrade over Freddy Galvis and his .538 OPS.
Still, with Met-fan optimism/delusion running high after the team’s three-game sweep of the Phillies in Philadelphia, the symbolism seems to rich to ignore. Fans of crumbling, aging teams hamstrung by a lack of roster depth demand Mike Fontenot.
I’m way too scarred by the last five seasons to say the Phillies won’t bounce back from their rough start. Plus, they’ve got too much pitching. But in this stretch, isolated by a small sample size and amplified in our heads by one woeful series against the Mets, the cracks are really starting to show.
Also, while writing this post, I became crushed by the overwhelming weight of time. In the time I’ve been covering roster minutiae on the Internet, Mike Fontenot has gone from one side of his prime to the other.
Josh Hamilton hits four home runs (and a double)
Presumably you know about this already, but last night Josh Hamilton went 5-for-5 with four home runs and a double. I’m posting it here for posterity: Four home runs in a game is easily my favorite single-game accomplishment, because it requires four home runs in a game.
Now you join the ranks of Mark Whiten!
Other awesome things include the Mets’ come-from-behind win over the Phillies last night. Here’s how this goes: When the Mets lose a series to the Phillies, I say, meh, just another series, sure it’s a division rival but it’s only a couple of games. When the Mets take a series from the Phillies, it represents not just a notch in the standings but a triumph of good over evil, a victory for the human spirit in the face of adversity.
A sweep would be the best thing.
Is it fair to make sweeping statements about fanbases?
Over at HardballTalk, Craig Calcaterra links to a series of Tweets from Giants beat writer Henry Schulman about the way Dodgers fans may or may not have treated the hobbled Matt Kemp during last night’s game.
I wasn’t watching the game and can’t speak to the particular incident in question, but at the single Dodgers home game I’ve attended in my life, Clayton Kershaw threw nine innings of two-run ball, struck out 11 Angels and walked none. He left on the short end after allowing a home run to Vernon Wells to put the Angels up 2-1 in the top of the ninth, but as he walked off the mound I stood up to applaud his effort anyway. And practically no one else did.
No way that happens at Citi Field, right? I have to figure if the Mets had a young, homegrown ace of Kershaw’s caliber, the fans that didn’t irrationally blame him for everything would harp on just about everything he did, and would certainly notice and appreciate a stellar outing like that one.
The Dodgers came back and won the game in the bottom of the 9th and the place went nuts. But am I wrong to say that, based on one game’s worth of evidence, most Dodgers fans are not like most Mets fans? Is Schulman wrong to suggest as much based on years of covering the beat in the NL West?
Because it sure seems like there are cultural differences: Mets fans are one way and Yankees fans are another way and Phillies fans are a whole different way, but there’s certainly a lot of confirmation bias in play, and obviously plenty of fans who don’t embody their team’s fanbase at large.
Well that was awesome
Not really much else to say. Beating Jonathan Papelbon while he’s on the Phillies is like sausage wrapped in bacon.
Here’s hoping Josh Thole is OK, or at least is OK soon. Wigginton’s slide looked clean and the collision unintentional to me: Wigginton is a big dude, and if he’s coming full-tilt there’s going to be a hell of a lot of momentum behind him. Thole’s face was in the wrong place at the wrong time.





