Why you don’t trade Angel Pagan

OK, here starts the first of a two-part regarding the incessant talk-radio, message-board and comments-section trade chatter.

So many things are overlooked when speculating on potential trades, but none more so than the economic factors involved. I’ll get deeper into that in the following post (about the supposedly available pitchers), but this one’s about Angel Pagan, a name frequently bandied about as trade bait for an ace pitcher.

There are plenty of obvious reasons the Mets shouldn’t trade Angel Pagan. He’s really good, for one, and a big part of the reason they’re even in contention this late in the season. And dealing Pagan because you’re relying on Carlos Beltran’s return to full health is just, well, you know. C’mon.

Inextricably linked to Pagan’s production, but perhaps less obvious, is his value to the team moving forward. Pagan will be paid $1.45 million this year, according to Cots. Per Fangraphs, he has already been worth about $9.9 million. And Pagan is under Mets control for the next two seasons. He’ll likely get a big raise in arbitration, but the total probably won’t come close to what he would cost to replace on the open market.

That means, if he stays healthy — no sure thing, of course — Pagan will provide the Mets with premium production at a bargain rate through 2012. He is precisely the type of player the Mets need more of: A low-cost contributor that allows them the payroll flexibility to pursue big-name free agents.

Obviously every angle in all trades should be explored, and if the D-backs come and ask the Mets for Pagan in a straight-up swap for Dan Haren, then, well, peace. But Pagan is worth more than a rental.

Using WAR as a quick-and-dirty reference point to evaluate players, Cliff Lee has been worth about 1.2 wins over Pagan this season. If they were to deal Pagan for Lee at midseason and both Lee and Pagan continue their torrid paces, the Mets will gain about 1.2 wins for the remainder of 2010, and that’s worth something. But the Mariners will receive Pagan’s cost-controlled production through 2012, which is worth a hell of a lot more.

Are we too hard on Jerry?

Reader “dave crockett” brought up an interesting point in response to my post about the way Jerry Manuel and Dan Warthen handled John Maine’s recent injury. He wrote:

I’m no Jerry apologist, but he’s become a caricature on the interwebs. No hyperbole is completely out of hand. No need for context when it comes to Jerry’s monkeyshines. When he subscribes to the same worn out, cliched, debunked “book” that supposedly good managers also still use it’s evidence of “Jerryball”.

This to me is a prime example…

Jerry and Dan *clearly* could have and should have been the bigger men in this situation — no question. But Ted, you don’t think this incident has anything to do with Maine blasting Jerry in the press on multiple days after being removed from his last start? Maine didn’t burn *any* bridges with the act he put on, even after it was clear he was hurt?

I replied:

I’d probably just let it go if it didn’t reflect a pattern. Remember that Warthen suggested the Mets’ catchers were responsible for the team-wide inability to throw strikes last season, and Manuel had his whole thing with Ryan Church.I don’t know the nature of Manuel’s relationship with any of his players, and the players do seem to enjoy playing for him. But talk to just about any player or ex-player about what makes for a good manager, and he’ll stress the importance of the manager having his back publicly. Bobby Valentine got a lot of heat for having a big ego — rightfully so, maybe — but he generally did a great job of putting players’ mistakes on his own shoulders.

Manuel has a way of subtly divorcing himself from many of the things that go wrong in a game — instead of “we were sending him,” it was, “he has a green light,” etc. He’s very likely being honest, but he rarely seems to step out of his way to take heat for a player’s error.

dave crockett responded:

My larger point is that I think we — I’m lumping myself in this category — have a classic perceptual bias. We’ve become so hypersensitive to JerOmar’s (many legitimate) faults we can’t acknowledge positive steps. The Maine situation was handled about as differently from Church or even Beltran as possible, but rhetorically people are connecting those three instances rather than separating them.

For the record, I wish we had a better manager. It’s just that manager is really hard to significantly upgrade. The woods are full of guys like Jerry. They may not come with a bunting fetish, but it’ll be something else. Almost the most you can expect is for them to be thoughtful about and responsive to their mistakes. Slowly and uncertainly maybe that’s beginning to happen.

I’m not ready to excuse Manuel or Warthen for the things they said about Maine’s injury after the fact. But I do think dave crockett makes a good point: It does seem like Manuel and Minaya are frequently crucified on the Internet for typical behavior of men in their positions.

And it seems like, in certain situations, Manuel would be torched no matter what he did. I was surprised he brought Jon Niese back out on Wednesday night after the rain delay and lengthy inning, but also surprised by the amount of negative reaction it prompted.

Disagreeing with managerial decisions is a big part of being a baseball fan, and I’m certain that fans of every Major League team quibble with the choices their manager makes. But are we too hard on Jerry Manuel for what we perceive to be mistakes? Do we ignore the correct decisions he makes? Should we point instead to this season’s positive results?

I don’t know. I’ll still contend that he bunts too often and overworks his relievers, no matter what anyone tells me. But at the same time, I think dave crockett is right that I’d be saying something similar about any manager leading the Mets.

Looming spectre of monkey uprising, wholesale lack of scoring continue to threaten enjoyment of World Cup

Gangly striker Peter Crouch’s parents have been left ‘petrified’ after a gang of wild baboons broke into their hotel room at the Sun City resort near England’s training camp in Rustenburg.

Making the schoolboy error of forgetting to lock their room window before they left, Bruce and Jayne Crouch returned from a trip out to find the hungry monkeys on a mission to liberate some tasty snacks.

Josh Burt, The Spoiler, via Deadspin.

TedQuarters first reported on the ongoing South African monkey uprising back in November. Commenter Dan provided more insight:

I lived in Cape Town for three months in 2006, and the baboons on the Cape Peninsula were remorseless. People would tell me stories of baboons breaking into their homes, going into their refrigerators.

There is a national park on the south end of the peninsula where visitors have to take real precautions because of them. I ate lunch outside with two other people there, which was ill-advised. A baboon came at me at top speed, and lept onto a picnic table where we were eating. My friend threw a sandwich at him, almost as a reflex. He snatched it out of the air and ran off. But others soon followed him to come after the rest of our lunch.

They are not to be trifled with.

Don’t mess with the monkeys, folks, and take measures to make sure the monkeys don’t mess with you.

Things we know about R.A. Dickey

Before last night’s game, R.A. Dickey was on a clubhouse computer looking up statistics about the Tigers. After the number he did on Detroit last night, people may be looking up his stats today.

– Roger Rubin, N.Y. Daily News.

I don’t have a link to Rubin’s recap as it has since been replaced by a later version. I transcribed it from the print edition.

So R.A. Dickey looks up stats on a computer before Mets games. Cool. Me too.

I imagine that’s not terribly unusual for a Major League pitcher preparing to face a team he’s never seen before, but then R.A. Dickey has demonstrated a capacity to surprise Mets fans again and again. Maybe he was looking up his own impressive WAR total. Maybe R.A. Dickey is a nerd like the rest of us.

Basically everything we know about R.A. Dickey is awesome. To boot:

He reads: Kevin Burkhardt told Mets fans of Dickey’s pre-game ritual of laying around and reading, and Dickey later told Marty Noble that he stresses the power of the written word with his children and urges them to think critically about literature. Check it out:

“There’s no testing, but I do want to know about their comprehension and what they retain … want them to see beneath the surface, to understand the human condition.”

R.A. Dickey wants his children to understand the human condition. The man sets lofty goals.

He goes by “R.A.”: Not because he’s preventing underage Ruben Tejada from bringing beer back to his dorm room, but because his name is “Robert Alan.” But this is no Bob or Robby Dickey. He’s the R.A., a name that conjures a form of mild authority. Also, it is a rare type that can pull off going by his initials when the initials do not include the letter J. Think about it: You know some J.J.s and T.J.s and J.P.s and maybe a P.J. or two. But R.A.? Unique.

He has a sweet beard: He does.

He looks a tiny bit like Will Ferrell: Also awesome.

He has no ulnar collateral ligament: And yet he can still throw a fastball in the mid-80s and a knuckleball that touches 80. R.A. Dickey is an actual freak of nature. Plus, you can’t tear something that doesn’t exist.

He dominates: In his first seven starts with the Mets, Dickey is 6-0 with a 2.33 ERA. His 2.50 K:BB ratio is impressive for a knuckleballer, and he has induced a 53.2% groundball rate. Smart money says Dickey probably won’t always be this good, but it’s difficult to guess just where his true talent level lies. Dickey has demonstrated reasonably steady improvement since taking up the knuckleball full time a half-decade ago, so there’s reason to expect he’ll continue to outpitch his historical norms.

He makes a hilarious face when he pitches: In conversation, a few of my friends have mentioned “that picture everyone keeps using of R.A. Dickey.” You know the one I’m talking about, right? Where’s he’s got his arm extended and his mouth wide open so it looks like he’s roaring like a lion?

Yeah, that’s not any one particular picture of R.A. Dickey. Look closer at “that picture” the next couple of times you see it. Notice that his uniform keeps changing, even though the rest of him keeps staying the same? The A.P. photo wire has like 30 pictures of R.A. Dickey making that face for at least three different teams. He’s yelling “R.A.” phonetically, like “RAAHHHH!”

Also, R.A. Dickey’s initials spell “Rad.”

So in conclusion, knuckleballers are awesome, and R.A. Dickey is a particularly awesome knuckleballer. Please direct all questions to your resident advisor.

Things might get weird

I am guinea-pigging a new blog design for the SNY.tv blog network. We are in the process of installing and tweaking the new theme this afternoon, so things will be pretty weird for a while. Weirder than usual.

Thank you for your patience.

Tommy Hanson mmmbopped by White Sox

I may have jinxed Tommy Hanson last week by writing about his outstanding numbers through 35 career starts, because his 36th outing was a disaster last night.

He allowed a career-high nine runs on 13 hits against the White Sox and failed to record a strikeout for the first time as his ERA ballooned from 3.38 to 4.13.

Aaron Gleeman, HardballTalk.

Well, yeah, the rough outing came in the first start after Gleeman sang Hanson’s praises, but it also came just one start after it was revealed here (and, for a short while, on his Wikipedia page) that the Tulsa-born Hanson is the first cousin of Ike, Taylor and Zac Hanson of the effervescent Oklahoman pop-rock trio Hanson.

Since Hanson was likely preparing for the Rays last Wednesday and not surfing the Internet, it is reasonable to assume that last night’s start was his first since he realized his shocking secret was uncovered.

Fire Murray Chass. Oh, right, someone already did.

Originally published by “Duke Casanova” on The Nooner Blog, March 5, 2009.

The following format is completely unoriginal. It is a tribute to Fire Joe Morgan, which some of us think is the funniest Web site in the history of Internet. We read this piece on Mike Piazza’s bacne on Murray Chass’ blog and couldn’t help ourselves. So here goes. In keeping with FJM format, the bold words are Chass’, the others are ours.

Joel Sherman of the New York Post and I do not have any kind of relationship. We have not talked for years. There’s no need to bore you with the reasons why.

“Because I’m an old crotchety jackass and he’s a younger crotchety jackass.”

But the other day his column caught my attention. Not many of his columns do. He writes them, after all, for the New York Post.

As compared to the bastion of journalistic integrity that is MurrayChass.com.

Circumstantial evidence against Piazza is almost as strong as it is against Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens and Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa. A 62nd round draft pick in the 1988 draft and drafted only as a favor to his father, a close friend of Tommy Lasorda, Piazza wound up as the No. 1 home-run hitting catcher in major league history.

Yes, that is almost as strong as federal perjury cases, grand jury testimony, doping calendars, and receipts for steroid purchases. Because all longshot success stories must have cheated. Tom Brady? Juicehead. Cinderella? Boob job. We’ve got circumstantial evidence.

Piazza wasn’t a terrific catcher; he would have fared better as a designated hitter.

Well, except then… Oh, we won’t even get into it. Let’s just skip to the bacne.

Early in the column Sherman writes about Piazza’s acne-covered back. This was a physical feature I had always noticed with Piazza. Not that reporters spend their time in clubhouses looking at guys’ bare backs, but when a reporter is talking to a player at his locker before he puts on his uniform shirt or after he takes it off and he turns around to put something in or take something out of his locker his back is what is visible.

First of all, gross. Second, you just broke the cardinal rule, Murray Chass. Please turn in your BBWAA card immediately and let Jack Morris know that he will not benefit from your Hall of Fame vote next year. Never acknowledge checking out an indecent baseball player, ever. We thought you went to journalism school.

Now as naïve as I might have been about steroids, the one thing I knew was that use of steroids supposedly causes the user to have acne on his back. As I said, Piazza had plenty of acne on his back.

“Another thing I know about steroids is that they supposedly cause the user’s testicles to shrink. And one time in the Tigers’ clubhouse in 2000, I noticed that Bobby Higginson had some tiny testicles. Now I had never seen Higginson’s testicles before he started playing baseball so I have no idea if they shrank to that size, but hey, he had small testicles and he hit home runs. Obviously he was a steroid user.”

When steroids became a daily subject in newspaper articles I wanted to write about Piazza’s acne-covered back… But two or three times my editors at The New York Times would not allow it. Piazza, they said, had never been accused of using steroids so I couldn’t write about it. But wait, I said, if I write about it, I will in effect be accusing Piazza of using steroids and then someone will have accused him of using steroids.

This is the best logic we’ve heard since the Old Dirty [expletive] said, “I don’t have no trouble with you [expletiving] me, but I have a little problem with you not [expletiving] me.” Honestly, we have no idea how this line of reasoning didn’t work on the editors at the New York Times.

I always took the veto to stem from the Times ultra conservative ways

Ahem? (Also, you need an apostrophe there, chief. And probably a hyphen between ultra and conservative.)

but I also wondered if it maybe was the baseball editor, a big Mets’ fan, protecting the Mets.

Or doing his job.

Then all of a sudden the acne was gone… I heard a radio commercial for a product called Proactiv (cq) Solution… Piazza’s name was not on the list and his picture was missing from the group of pictures that adorned the site. So Proactiv Solution wasn’t the answer for his problem.

And since Proactiv is, as we all know, the only product on the market known to fight pimples, obviously Mike Piazza used steroids. It’s as clear as our skin was once we started using Accutane, Clearasil, Stridex and Oxy.

The conversation was aimed at eliciting if Piazza planned to play another season or would be retiring, but I also asked him about steroids.

“I don’t really think about stuff like that,” he responded. “I think in a way these investigations there’s a positive in putting the whole thing to rest. This game is very resilient. There will be a time when people will say there was an issue and they dealt with it.”

That’s probably true, but it’s going to take a really long time, because people like Murray Chass won’t shut up about Mike Piazza’s bacne.

His back is presumably clear in retirement.

We’re not so sure, Murray, and you should probably do some investigative reporting on this one.

But it was Piazza’s back that undermined Sherman’s column.

Is there video footage of that? Because Mike Piazza’s been denying rumors of his homosexuality for a long time, and it seems downright irresponsible for some unaffiliated blogger like Murray Chass to go spouting off rumors about Piazza “undermining” Joel Sherman’s “column” with his back, if that’s what they’re calling it these days.

I didn’t send an e-mail.

“Because I couldn’t figure out this newfangled thing.”

We actually feel kind of bad picking Murray Chass like this because he strikes us as a pathetic old man lashing out at something — Internet — that he still can’t wrap his head around, all while trying to come to grips with his own obsolesence on the very forum that has rendered him so. And that’s got to be tough, we get that. Tragic stuff.

But we make no pretenses to unbiased journalism, and we love Mike Piazza in a totally platonic, heterosexual way, and we couldn’t allow his good name to be sullied in this way. So Mike Piazza had bacne and then it went away. That makes him guilty of nothing more than being kind of gross.

…addendum, Friday, 10:34 a.m….

We want to go back to this line, briefly:

Piazza, they said, had never been accused of using steroids so I couldn’t write about it. But wait, I said, if I write about it, I will in effect be accusing Piazza of using steroids and then someone will have accused him of using steroids.

This might be the funniest thing we’ve ever read. We hope Chass is trying to be cutesy here, and we guess that’s his right. But if Chass — Mr. I’m-a-responsible-journalist-and-I-hate-blogs — was actually trying to pitch his stories using this type of Salem witchtrial rationale, it pretty much trivializes everything he’s ever written.

Guess what? We’ve heard that Murray Chass stomps puppies. Granted, no one’s ever accused him of that before, but guess what: We just did. Try to disprove it, Chass. The ball’s in your court.